As an (A level historian) I find these cartoons pretty interesting and quite funny - but also a bit misled - 90% of the german people were happy - the whole work thing seems more like an anti capitalist video on the 'Fuhrers face' cartoon.
Whats even more interesting is that that donald duck one especially if you changed the soundtrack, and left out the very end, it could have worked either way.
Actually, the fact that Donald starts to do the Nazi salute when he wakes up could be taken to mean he's really a Nazi spy and forgot where he was momentarily.
I think this interpretation explains a lot about Donald's character.
The very last Popeye cartoon is also interesting, as it mainly takes place while Popeye's on leave.
The interesting thing about cartoons is that they usually aren't accurate.
Paranoid moms all over the planet complain about how video games, movies and music is bad for children yet make them wear pyjamas with Nazis on them... :P
Ive actually seen most of the comedic set pieces in 'all this and rabbit stew' in another cartoon where the character of the black hunter is replaced with elmer fudd, and is essentially the same cartoon (including elmers head turning into a sucker every time he's been duped). Are they saying a white dumb ass is better than a black dumb ass? Is fudd more politically acceptable? Frankly I cant stand this level of namby pamby Political Correctness or that people seek to rewrite the history they have trouble coming to terms with. The key ingredient in racism is hate, and if some of the scenes shown in these cartoons had been hateful I would agree they should be removed, but I disagree that they be removed simply to placate some idiot who may take offence to them. You'll have to excuse my ignorance over the Dixie song aswell, personally (and Im sure kids dont read anything into it either) I thought it was just a catchy tune, but it looks like its become a victim of its association with a sore part of american history and used as a political weapon. Its sort of like when people wouldnt listen to Wagner because he was Hilters favourite composer (actually this could work to our favour, we could insinuate Osama's favourite artist is James Blunt!)
The point is, its not the song that is hateful, but what people read into it, but unless they are prepared to let go of their own predjudices and accept it as part of their history it will remain to have hurtful connotations. Does this also mean every single Foghorn Leghorn Cartoon should be banned also, since that is his signature tune? I think not. My point is, when children watch a cartoon they see a funny rabbit having fun with a man with a gun, its only when we start forcing our own stereotypes and prejudices on them would they actually take any racial connotation from it.
As for the World War 2 ones, They are essentially part of history, I dont think they are relevant anymore, probably wouldnt make it on TV, but they shouldnt simply be erased because their content is anti-axis, if anyone had sense they would be restored and used as teaching aids.
After watching the Donald Duck one, I'm forced to conclude that Donald is a German expatriot who was having a nightmare about his former homeland.
The salute was merely a programmed response. He did it in his sleep at the beginning, so it was probably just an unconscious thing.
How often do we even think about the fact that we stand up, take our hats off and put our hands over our chests when we hear "ooohhh sayyy can you seeee"? Any how many sodiers do you think actually think about it when they bring their hands up to their brows as a commanding officer approaches?
Even more so, hwoever, a German from Nazi Germany would have feared *not* doing this when prompted. It could easily mean his death.
To me, it seemed that Donald wasn't a nazi soldier, but for some reason a factory worker under National Socialist rule.
Watch "Coal Balck and De Sebben Dwarfes". It's interesting because even though the entire cartoon is done with blackface characters the only really offensive thing in the entire cartoon is the phrase" Japs Free". Which makes sense seeing as how it was made in 1943. The fact is though that the cartoon is absolutely amazingly animated and is a really catchy and fun take on the Snow White story.
Oh man.
Apparently, I'm amazingly racist because I couldn't find anything offensive about those movies. I wish I could be one of those jazzy gorillas!
It really is a shame that these have to be so offensive as many of them, apart from the racism, are absolutely fantastic.
I don't even know why some of these are banned, especially the anti-Nazi ones. I mean, come on, are we really worried about offending Nazis?
Unfortuately, we live in a world where Tom & Jerry cartoons have to have Mammy's voice replaced, yet Soul Plane still gets made.
As an (A level historian) I find these cartoons pretty interesting and quite funny - but also a bit misled - 90% of the german people were happy - the whole work thing seems more like an anti capitalist video on the 'Fuhrers face' cartoon.
The interesting thing about propaganda, is that it usually isn't accurate.
Whats even more interesting is that that donald duck one especially if you changed the soundtrack, and left out the very end, it could have worked either way.
Disney hedging their bets methinks.
VERY interesting way to look at it.
Actually, the fact that Donald starts to do the Nazi salute when he wakes up could be taken to mean he's really a Nazi spy and forgot where he was momentarily.
I think this interpretation explains a lot about Donald's character.
The very last Popeye cartoon is also interesting, as it mainly takes place while Popeye's on leave.
The interesting thing about cartoons is that they usually aren't accurate.
Yeh the propoganda would work quite well i suspect.. and to think i wore donald duck pyjamas as a child. scarred.
Very interesting opinions.
Just a note: I don't see any racisim in these cartoons.
Heck, I don't even know what racisim is.
Paranoid moms all over the planet complain about how video games, movies and music is bad for children yet make them wear pyjamas with Nazis on them... :P
Ive actually seen most of the comedic set pieces in 'all this and rabbit stew' in another cartoon where the character of the black hunter is replaced with elmer fudd, and is essentially the same cartoon (including elmers head turning into a sucker every time he's been duped). Are they saying a white dumb ass is better than a black dumb ass? Is fudd more politically acceptable? Frankly I cant stand this level of namby pamby Political Correctness or that people seek to rewrite the history they have trouble coming to terms with. The key ingredient in racism is hate, and if some of the scenes shown in these cartoons had been hateful I would agree they should be removed, but I disagree that they be removed simply to placate some idiot who may take offence to them. You'll have to excuse my ignorance over the Dixie song aswell, personally (and Im sure kids dont read anything into it either) I thought it was just a catchy tune, but it looks like its become a victim of its association with a sore part of american history and used as a political weapon. Its sort of like when people wouldnt listen to Wagner because he was Hilters favourite composer (actually this could work to our favour, we could insinuate Osama's favourite artist is James Blunt!)
The point is, its not the song that is hateful, but what people read into it, but unless they are prepared to let go of their own predjudices and accept it as part of their history it will remain to have hurtful connotations. Does this also mean every single Foghorn Leghorn Cartoon should be banned also, since that is his signature tune? I think not. My point is, when children watch a cartoon they see a funny rabbit having fun with a man with a gun, its only when we start forcing our own stereotypes and prejudices on them would they actually take any racial connotation from it.
As for the World War 2 ones, They are essentially part of history, I dont think they are relevant anymore, probably wouldnt make it on TV, but they shouldnt simply be erased because their content is anti-axis, if anyone had sense they would be restored and used as teaching aids.
After watching the Donald Duck one, I'm forced to conclude that Donald is a German expatriot who was having a nightmare about his former homeland.
The salute was merely a programmed response. He did it in his sleep at the beginning, so it was probably just an unconscious thing.
How often do we even think about the fact that we stand up, take our hats off and put our hands over our chests when we hear "ooohhh sayyy can you seeee"? Any how many sodiers do you think actually think about it when they bring their hands up to their brows as a commanding officer approaches?
Even more so, hwoever, a German from Nazi Germany would have feared *not* doing this when prompted. It could easily mean his death.
To me, it seemed that Donald wasn't a nazi soldier, but for some reason a factory worker under National Socialist rule.
What we need to do is get rid of racism & chinks.
Watch "Coal Balck and De Sebben Dwarfes". It's interesting because even though the entire cartoon is done with blackface characters the only really offensive thing in the entire cartoon is the phrase" Japs Free". Which makes sense seeing as how it was made in 1943. The fact is though that the cartoon is absolutely amazingly animated and is a really catchy and fun take on the Snow White story.
Did you notice the Prince Chawmin has dice for teeth?
And seriously, what about Yosemite Sam? Isn't he an offensive caricature of a Southerner? He's short, fiery, and loves guns.